Longest bonus round survival?
What was your longest bonus round survival time? How did you do it? I am at 482 seconds with Miss Jilly married to Mr Iron!
Just finished a 1012 second bonus with Sat as main and a VERY supportive Mr. Iron. I think my Mr. Iron had about 15 keys, Fistfull of Steel and Cauldrons for MAJOR buffs.
One quest... If you have the whole Frozen set constructed into his suit can you get Gib?
Oh wow over 1000 seconds, that's pretty damn sweet!
Regarding the Frozen Set in Mr Iron. Nope it doesn't work to get Gib. All set abilities do not take effect when constructed in his suit (all text that is green).
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I am guessing you mean towers? If so I had my main as Sat with 60m gold and a Mr. Iron with all my buffing items built into him. I didn't have any aura towers tho.
I still say Mr. Iron Could possibly do better... 100% armor pen built in is amazing.
Zeek
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I reached 350 sec a few times with Shadow. I use Shadow as my principal tower, it's speed and range make it awesome until a flow of creeps invade the map (about 320 sec in survival, about that, it's frustrating that the tower focuses on creeps according to the wave and not the position...). The last run, I replaced Ganesha level 99 with Balu, but it could help much since I used most of my potions on my Shadow before getting the rings. I'll try to keep the potions and/or add Gib in my set of towers...
This time tried Shadow as a carry after getting to round 70 with the Pickpocket and having to change her out.
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Elehant + 1 dark item + 3 keys = Forge 99 lvl (lvlup for elephant = lvlup for forge)
Forge 99 + 4 pants = tons of feests for mr iron
Surv:
elephant married on forge + pot = 198 lives ( for few secs surv)
Shadow + buzz buzz set + arm pen item (imo best last slot) + mr iron (supp) + knus (arm pen) = "Live long and prosper"
(Working on it)
Warlemming
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First try.
Result & my fail nick name... )
Late forge, no sword, on 200 wave was only 47 lvl (
All about math...
To be continued...
Game is still going. Just posting here in case it borks ^^
By one run 60->72 lvl
Buzz buzz must be nerfed.....
Now we have 1 meta...
If we nerf dat set, came new era of mr iron.
Set must be changed in 2 item set:
1 stacking as up to 200%
2 stacking ad up to 400%
Set bonus:
Cr strike increase cr dmg by 1% up to 200%
Lost in 3 sec all stacks.
2500% as soo op...
Omnomnom...
I reached (only) 499 seconds on easy 200 waves with my main having 5.5M damage and 1600% AS.
Without the stacking buff i actually needed some sort of exploit. I think that the stacking buff is way too decisive on the bonus round.
I'll try this strategy on 500 waves to see how i goes and without the stacking buff.
what is meta.
why does 6000+ time only got 750 exp
i got like 1250 after 500+ sec at the bonus round
holy fuck, 6000+ seconds? i just ended my game on hard 500waves with about 1300sec.. forgot screenshot though.. but if the ladder works, i should appear :D ì try some strats, but buzz is op, i think placement for bonus round is everything..
tips for those who ua tip for mr iron main
never ever construct your armour when its on bonus round it will destroy yourbuzz buzz
learned it the hard way
4500++ sec
should have far more than that but i construct my armour and reset my buzz buzz buff
Run witout set... 
19900 second run hahahahah i dont have the time so i jus end it there :)
hplarvani
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i got to 7724 today, my record before i read gamers tips was 2005 seconds, read gamers advices in the strategy topic and i left a comment there too but im no expert or anything but i aim to be ;)
Thermo
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Thermo
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Got about 2000 seconds today on easy with darkness/nature and a double Holgar carry. Here's what I did:
-Started out with baby rabbit and frog early game, feeding a couple of potions to rabbit to keep it going from rounds 1-80
-As I was doing this, surrounded my two main towers with Witches for attack speed
-Once I got enough gold, I upgraded the frog to a Huuli and the rabbit to Holgar. Huuli was first because he has better attack speed (less likely to lose life on mass rounds), and he got a big crit bonus from all the witches around him.
-Fed the Holgar about 7 mead to keep him going, transformed Huuli into Holgar and fed him about the same
-This lasted for a decent amount of time until I finally got both Yin/Yang Rings around round 170. Then I could feed them both the rest of my pots (except mead, i didn't really need it anymore since they did plenty of damage)
-Once Ganesha got to 99 I started to build Acolytes of Greed on it for 5 treasure goblins each...buckets of items and potions! I think i spent more time swiping to transform things than letting my towers kill stuff
-Transformed mead and water of life potions for other things once I hit 400% item chance
-Sadly I still didn't get enough attack speed to go from 0.1 to 0.0 on my Holgars :( But it was a good game regardless
Items on my two carries were frozen heart x 2 + Excalibur + Ring, and frozen heart x 2 + Blade of Darkness + Ring
Ontrose
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@ontrose Hello ontrose, I'm the on who did 7500sec hard 500 rounds on blood moor. By the time you're reading it, I'm at 9811.
I'm also wondering how they made such insane timer without any glitch.
Sadly, I've no tried any of the new map yet .So I don't really have any idea how it's done.
However, I think that 24k seconds is do-able on Blood moor too with a bit of RNG.
I'm trying to optimise everything on my run and in every game, and most of the time I find a way too.
I'll maybe try the new map in my next run to understand if this is a glich or a bug.
There will always be some flaw in a game. So even if I found one, I would say it to Andy instead of the forum. And I expect that most of the community would do it.
Well, I expect that my answer will satisfied you. If it doesn't feel free to ask more question. I will try to answer them the best I can.
I would be interested in how those extremely high scores on only some of the maps could have been achieved.
Thankful for any input :-)
This was my last run
Thermo
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No worry @Thermo, I was thinking of an upgrade of my current Setup. But I'm unsure of his viability on hard mode... So I may regive a go to the easy ladder of Blood Moor to test out :3.
Hey folks,
like you I can't stop playing this game, but I am a bit frustrated... I really don't know how you get those numbers. And I really appreciate if you could share your item's for survival round...
I mean, I play with shadow as carry. Married to no one, Mr. Iron next to it, he gets everything which increases crit, dmg, and speed (till I got roughly 700%,than I swipe them for pots).
Potions everything on shadow, speed and item potions will get swiped after 700% speed and 400% items...
Abyss king get the speed potions and has the attackspeed set with pants on. Shadow has Seelenreisser, reaver, Helm, and dark blade..
And with this I just came to 8000secs... don't know what else to do... ;(
Ontrose
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@Andy Well, I can't really say much about my build since it's not the same with everygame.
I can say that I'm using shadow as most of the players.
Also, 18ksec can be easily upgrade to 20k+ with either a good run OR a new setup.
And, I'm not using any legendary weapon like demon blade/seir.
I will try to make a resume of all the information I gave you on facebook in the few days.
@norvask 20k can be easily achieve mate, at least with some upgrade ^^' or a good run. So please leave th first slot bro xD
@jarecv For Bonus wave, you can either go for multicrit or armor pen.
Well you should marry it to another tower Holgar is good for free pot or hitman or many towers are good.
Well I don't know what to add ontrose already said a lot of thing ^^'
Thermo
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@Thermo I should really try to aim 40k/50k on easy...
But I'm so lazy to do it xD...
I will try one day, I will :3
Thermo
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@Thermo I know this feeling... I had painkiller still on my last run and I was like "oh let's watch a short 2min video", I was at 17.5k sec and when i came back, lost at 18k sec QQ.
I will give you my opinion, none of my run are insane or OP as fuck. I'm just taking life as a data who can go until 0%.
I don't mind loosing let's say +95% life on round 100 -> 200 to see if I don't have some lucky drop.
I find hard mode a more rewarding mode (More exp :3) but also one of the run that can fuck you up with some really bad RNG...
The swap beetwin eearly-mid/mid game is the hardest on this game since you're lacking of armor pen and they creep already reduce your damage output by 30%+
The fact that I said 22k+ can be achieve is because my run wasn't really good and I know that it can be improve really easily.
But if I was playing on easy, I would aim for an WTF OP SHIT RUN :D. That would take some days to beat you compare to my run on hard ^^'.
That's the huge difference beetwin easy & hard. Hard mode can be still improve really easily by the lack of players/knowedge we currently have :p
i use 1000-goblins-shot to get shadow with stats like 60000%, 20000 atk, 20000 crit, 10000 spd, with 100 billion max hit. easy strategy without any brain activity, and result can be improved to 2-3 times, with using some brain activity (good second carry tower, etc..), but i`m too lazy for that now :)
BTW, i play on ipad 2, and this 1000-goblins-shot consume about 5-6 minutes of calculating. And it`s really annoying to spawn goblins after first 5 hundreds mobs on screen. More annoying only converting several thousands of dropped items into potions, and converting hundreds waters of life to something useful.
Thermo
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Thermo
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Well, I managed to come in second on the bonus time ladder on easy mode for the first map, clocking in at 20,581 seconds. I did not, however, use the shadow, otherwise I expect I would have gotten at least 5 times that length. ;-)
Ontrose
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@Thermo, Really nice run. I think that on my run, my Shadow had 30k adaptation.
So if I had yours; it would have been insane :).
I will give it a go next week maybe. I'm searching at something for the moment ^^' .
Ontrose
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@ontrose Well as you said, it's not your buniness :3.
I can say you that it's a bug that will be fix.
Sorry bro, I can't say much about it ^^' ...
Ontrose
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Okay, I couldn't quite live up to my boast of 100k seconds with the shadow - I only managed 69075. :)
Nice nice !!! 586k adaptation I would love you to explain how you did it to Andy :)
I don't know how you did it, but it seems you found an awesome exploit...
@Sarore it seems you found out yourself, lol. There is actually basically no limit to how high you can get, as well. I could easily have gotten 2 million +, but was too lazy.
@Argon, I'm not sure. I know some bug but I may not know yours.
I could reproduce it with my current knowedge but It would take way too long.
That why I prefer that you explain it to Andy :3.
@norvask You shouldn't be impress, this is most likely a glitch based run...
you made yourself far better run than I ever did so GG :D
Wonder sarores secret even leaving phone on 3 days with the bug had a 340k adapt shadow think like 40k dam 50k crit and a buru bear 50k crit 180k increase attack only hit 30k sec on twisted wish I knew how bonus scales say a 200 red vs 500 and the rate of increase on mobs
I wish I knew what people are referring to as "bugs". I got 570k adaptation on a shadow, and it did not require the use of any bugs in the game.
My secret? I got none, it's just a mechanic abuse, that why I'm not using it really often. The real question is how GOD1 made his own . . .
Myself found a bug that let me pause between RDS found another that d let me survive same 600k second ends b t get no except experience off bonus but honestly aside f ROM card dust to get new cards there's no more growth for me at least past red co50 maybe present 50 10% damage or 8%crit would make a diff I guess but with bonus on hero skills being static notcourse to multiplyer it doesn't matter
sry for bad pics,, but i thought it might help someone with their gameplay and tower placement,
this build got me to 18k
http://imgur.com/hfbaRmD,v1g3Tb3,tLtwji8,MY2eE1I,YgY9CB2,auC0tmx,FkLdhOd#0
and this one to 27k
http://imgur.com/BubxTXv,PVqv4DM,3yjawcQ,kD6CFts,GrnYkJW,XpiFYlZ,Bb51jXD,DxHQ5SG,8P54TCe,6X1naw5,DCTe6pp,VHc5MyJ,aq8NLA7,CgN9diz,hsL08Od,TOx89kO#10
though i have all legendarys and i play with the Lord Roderic hero card, the second shadow was a holgar but i swiched him with shadow at 22k seconds(to late to make a difference)
Here's my build guide: Nature+darkness towers only.
Restart until you get a Dandelion on the starting hand.
Build only Dandelion and let him level up a bit (Use potions on him), add a few jilly's in the far back to prevent leaks, add a shadow in front (don't buff him except with speed items).
Build a few Witches for attack speed, then replace Dandelion with Holgar when you can (recycle all unnecessary items and only focus on bringing up your Holgar/Dandelion damage/crit/speed, recycle towers to if you get enough rares towers to get a rare item)
<- Always save accolyte.
You need to focus on getting enough speed (or mass jillys) to handle the mass waves though, the speedy ones are especially hard.
Later when you get ganesha get him out asap, if you get a forge place it to (give the forge any luck items you can spare), don't give ganesha anything special until he's around level 50 then give him 4 dark items, and your forge as many 30xp books he can hold try to stick with ~60+ luck tho.
That should get you rolling enough to get to end game pretty easily, after you get wedding rings and start buffing shadow+holgar (give shadow ms reaver asap).
When your shadow starts overwhelming your holgar on normal waves (usually 300-350 for me without any items) then start moving your legendary items back and forth if there are champions that needs taking care off, Holgar is super strong against the champions/horses, especially with the withered set on your shadow to assist.
At rank 500 I usually replace forge with acolytes (one at the time ;P) until I run out, then I replace Holgar with the Frozen Deamon and give him the Withered set for support against bosses.
I usually place "Key of wisdom" on all other towers, and skip the cool down between every normal round (from the start of the game) so if things are getting hairy I can just pause and place out impatience sets+luck pants on all the jillys and let them handle any high level leaks.
I run Skeleton king with Impatience+Door, Knux with Impatience+Helm of Hades
Anyway here is my best try with this strat. (using Osmo, the Jester King)
Hey @Curs3d great info i think we have about the same strat with some differences(biggest diff is that i have use of mr.iron and elvises and that you beat my score anyway you bastard ;) hehe) but anyway great input i think this will get some of the new players really rocking some scores until they perfected their own strategy,
only lategame tip i think i can give you is that the witches wont help so much as they do early/mid game bcoz all the towers you really want up to speed is already up =) i think a great replacement would be beavers, or ofc jilly's or gibs, i think even wizards could do some improvement,(though i'm not a fan of wizards)
but as i said before awesome guide and i hope to beat your score in the near future :D
peace //
Thanks MRDRR ;)
Yea I messed up and transformed to many basic towers at around round 400, then I just didn't get enough afterwards to fill the spots :(.
Well I'm kind of on the ropes over what hero to use I have Lord Roderic to and I've been trying to make it to the 'end' with him, so his x2 multicrit would take effect but I've had a hard time early game due to the reduction to luck/attack speed (without good item drops you can get really messed up).
Yea those damn wizards, I wanted to like and use them, but after trying them multiple times I've realized they just aren't worth it, the misfired 3 secs knock back keeps screwing up my day.
I dislike putting Jilly to far forward to though, since they keep stealing kills of my Seelenreisser / Skeleton King at the higher levels (especially with a impatience set).
yeah lord roderic seems very promising but as you said the early game is hard as **** what works for me is baby rabbit(goes holgar) in tile No 5 and feed him potions and speed items as fast as possible, a beaver or 2 in the front, about 2 witches in the middle, and a few jillys in the back(at this point i still leak some of the challenges but the rest of the creeps i eat), and shadow on tile No 3 as soon as i can(but the -%luck is killing him =) i need ms reaver and the lucky potion + lots of speed to make him start surpassing holgar), then just pocket thieves to gain money faster, i used to have a pub in the back for the active skill but with lord roderic it doesn't do much difference i also like to put an elvis on tile 7 as it get all the benefits but none of the drawbacks and i use to make a money bin on tile six until i get the widow, she is one of the first unique towers i place to get better item drop% asap
i need to perfect a strategy with lord roderic, before i got him and started to try out strats i only liked to play with littlefinger
i use to save jillys to have for emergencies in bonus rounds, if i need to drink health or exploding potion, or just wanna replace my last acolyte, i agree that too many jilly's in the front isn't a good option, but to get a tower to lvl 99 fast a jilly can do it very easy
You exploiters and cheaters are so damn patheitc. You make a mockery of this entire game. You dont even explain your exploits and cheats to give an even playing field to the rest of the honest players. You just hoard the exploits all to yourselves and act all proud like total scum bags as if youve accomplished something when in reality youre nothing but lying cheats.
Ontrose
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This is NOT a young TD. Ive been around for a while and was ladder rank 9 until the exploiters took over. And oh how proud they are those lying cheats. Theyve even brainwashed people like you into thinking its ok where you write a multi paragraph post trying to defend them.
Basically, these exploiters are GOOD for the game, because then the developer can find out about the bugs and exploits people use and fix them.
What are you talking about, neither me nor MRDRR are exploiting in any way.
What we do is aim for maximum effectiveness and scaling, which currently means trying to get as many potions as possible with holgar, while trying to get as many adaptations as possible with shadow, move seelenreisser around between shadow/holgar/Abyss King to maximum stacks, aim for the best demon blade possible (which is pretty damn hard), and then try and collect as many Acolytes as possible (which is why I play Shadow/Nature).
That glitch that I've heard about is certainly something that some in the top must have done, but both me and MRDRR have gotten to ~30k legit without it. (which is why we posted...)
Honestly I certainly didn't play perfectly on my 30k try and there was a lot of room for improvements, one thing I'm trying now is for a wedding ring boosted baby rabbit with the withered set and maximized attack speed (20 attacks/s) to constantly boost damage to 3 targets at all times.
So the maximum legit score is most likely at least 35-45k, I'm having a hard time seeing people get far above that though, even getting shadow / ms reaver asap you just can't get enough adaptations to get much further then that.
Edit: Bombdigie I saw that you have both Demon Blade and the Seelenreisser, since that's more or less what you need for a 10k+ result, perhaps you could try the strategy I posted and check how well it works, since that strategy is something both me and MRDRR have individually gotten to by trial and error. (even a bad try should easily show how well it works)
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Yeah we play legit! nothing more than good strats developed with lots and lots time and failure until we got it right,
@Bombdigie i see you only have ladder times from 200 waves so that is probably why you haven't climbed higher, we play 500 wave rounds, your top score on 200 waves is 2927 and my top score on 200 is 3821 with darkness only, thats just about 900 sec i've beaten you with and it is doable to improve further. so stop complaining and get those 500 waves and get a strat and you'll go up there in notime
as for the darkness acolyte exploit with all 3 races and 500 waves i get 50ish acolytes on average, so i wouldn't say it's too OP with 50 acolytes, sure i get a hell of a lot of items but it should be the same for everyone anyway, though the ones playing only darkness have said they get about 250 acolytes from a 500 game, now thats pretty op but still they loose on some things like manitou and mr.iron etc.. but 250 lvl99 acolytes gives quite a lot of items and potions so i dunno maybe goblinfarm exceed other strategies i dunno i never bothered to try =)
i dunno my total playtime but it start to be an impressive amount of time =) i dont remember completely but i think i played about 8 hours a day for 2-3 days to get the 27k seconds survival or something similar
well @Bombdigie you seem to have gotten a hang of it now, as why we beat you with ridiculus amounts of bonus seconds. you have 13457 seconds survival now from your original 2927 sec record! Thats more than a 10k sec climb, maybe you see that we don't cheat now mate? =) as you most likley noticed aswell is that 200 and 500 wave strategies are significantly different and a 200 wave strat won't work on a 500 wave round and vice versa =) well gl hf and don't be scared to try new strats, there is always a better one or to be able to improve an existing one! peace //
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Shodows a must in bonus round to get far but must have carry to pull him threw hoursemen halgor or hit man are my two chioces wether using dark planet combo or black mirror combo
Hello,
I came after a "long" break to see how the game is going to replay or else.
Well, as one of the "exploiters and cheaters" I think I should reply. (even if it was some month ago ^^')
@Bombdigie, I will try to best to explain if you ever come back to read it.
"You make a mockery of this entire game."
Some of my hight score should have never been here. I won't lie that there shouldn't be any exploit like this. However, some people try to understand the mechanic to the game after seeing it. And so more glitch can be found out.
"You dont even explain your exploits and cheats to give an even playing field to the rest of the honest players."
I don't understand WHY you need this information, as any others player. EVERY glitch/bug/exploit, I've found while playing the game have been given to Andy. Even if we found them by error and then we could find out how to recreate it.
Exploit should be unknown to public and correct in futur patch. That why I've never talk in the forum how to make them.
" You just hoard the exploits all to yourselves and act all proud like total scum bags as if youve accomplished something when in reality youre nothing but lying cheats."
True, I found way to duplicate item,potion,tower ... But they have been all fix now. I'm one of the "lying cheats" and I don't really care, it helps the game to progress and you're jealous.
Finding bug take time, a lot of time.... And I could have spend this time leveling my character or many other thing.
Oh you may not know but finding bug doesn't give you level on mazebert TD. So... I was not leveling, not progressing or anything. I was just spending my time to find out how to improve the game...
" Ive been around for a while and was ladder rank 9 until the exploiters took over."
By the ways if you've been arround for so long, you may have known that exploit start pretty soon with the old M.Iron and it was pretty common. Oh and item duplicate was already there at the time just saying.
"Theyve even brainwashed people like you into thinking its ok where you write a multi paragraph post trying to defend them."
Well... I don't think so, beta-tester and glitcher are pretty common on any game... Do you really think that Andy knows the outcome when he's making the game? No, people find problem and exlain him. No need to go further...
And oh how proud they are those lying cheats."
Yes, when I found a exploit I'm proud because it will help the game. And yes, it took some time and I consider it as a reward to have understand the mechanic. If you're so interested about the glitch search about them yourself. And you may understand us "the dirty, pathetic cheater"
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Nice giude! My suggestion is to equip knusp with the impatience-set and mushrooms for speed rather than luck 1000% speed helps lots:)
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Hello Romeo, I totally understand your point of view. As I said, I never planned to go in the leaderboard with any of my "abused" game.
But you think I should have explain how to break the game? I don't think it's fair, since it would make the game less attractive.
When I'm playing a TD, I feel that bug should be fix and that what Andy is doing. He's always tried to correct and understand the way a bug was made to ensure it won't happen again.
But currently, I've not found any kind of bug in the past patch. It could be that I'm playing less or they are harder to achieve.
Anyways, there will always be a way to break a game, and personally I don't mind seeing insane leaderboard. Because it means that there are still exploit to be found. And obviously, I would like anyone who find one to report it to Andy :).
Romeo
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I mean I play the game for fun, And deleting abuse make the game fair. I said that there has been one mistake from my part where i got in the leaderboard with them. But if I really wanted at the time, I could have done unlimited timer on survival. But it wouldn't have any flavor that why I don't want to post them.